the law of diminishing return. they are experiencing it. after six months of trying to do nothing but saying he is such a liar. i heard of people who run on something to promise something. then they run for re-election and say did you lie then when you say you were going to close gitmo? is that a lie? i never heard of someone being told they were liaring because of their proposal in front of 55 million people. that's actually, that isn't possible. like with susan rice, ambassador rice, i don't think she purposefully lied. someone gave her bad information or someone got -- something happened there. >> andrea: an interesting answer, look at your buddy debbie wasserman schultz. could this be lying? listen to the bizarreo answer she gave last night. >> they put out information they had at the time. based on the intelligence they were given. it doesn't mean it was false. >> andrea: he said it's completely wrong. she said that doesn't mean it was false. is she a liar? >> eric: i have -- look, there is a difference between campaign lying, and the